We sat down on the eve of the 6 Nations, 48 hours before he reffed Wales vs Scotland in Cardiff. I Could have chatted for hours. So open about the game from his pov, with real insights as to what referee’s go through week to week. Immense highs and lows. Social Media abuse. Respect from the players and coaches, and a desire to be the best he can be. Great speaker, articulate with some good banter too.